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Dan Caplis is a conservative talk radio host in Denver. He's also running for office - - senate or house at the state level, something along those lines. Dan's cohost on his radio show is Craig Silverman, a former prosecutor who is marginally more liberal than Dan. And for some reason, I just find it fascinating to listen to their individual takes on the issues du jour.

After the Rockies won the league pennant, for the first time ever getting the chance to go to the World Series as something other than a spectator or hotdog salesperson, Caplis & Silverman did a show on the "spiritual" influence on the team's late-season winning streak. Dan appeared to be convinced that God was in the details of the Rockies' successful run to the World Series, and that got me thinking - - is God a Rockies fan?



Dan referenced the faith of the Rockies manager and the entire team as a factor in their win in a sporting contest - - does this mean that the Diamondbacks are faithless heathens and that God punished them? Even if the Diamondbacks ARE faithless heathens, isn't there something a tad immoral about exercising one's omnipotence on behalf of one team in a sporting contest? God'll never get into the Baseball Hall of Fame now....

I was also struck by the possibility that God was taking time out of his busy schedule to muck around with which team wins a baseball game. What, did hostilities cease in Darfur? Were the monks released in Myanmar? Did we leave Iraq? Are children across Africa no longer being infected at birth with HIV? Are teens no longer being sexually assaulted in juvenile prison?

That's not really fair, I guess. Even God should be able to take a break, grab a cold Coors Lite and root for the most righteous team. Thanks, God, for finally getting the Rockies into the World Series - - we owe you one. Like, a firstborn.



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by theblaast (PM , CC ) on Friday October 19, 2007 @ 5:03 PM




The Valkyrie:

Carla:

Any baseball team winning 21 out of its last 22 games must have experienced the intervention of a higher power.
 
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by Whit's Whittlings (PM , CC ) on Friday October 19, 2007 @ 5:24 PM




TheBlaast, you think I was kidding when I said I'd see you in hell????

This kind of stuff cracks me up - - when God is credited with saving one person from a fiery crash in which everyone else was evidently allowed to perish, or when God gets the credit for a made freethrow. Wish I had some of that there omnipresence......
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Friday October 19, 2007 @ 6:01 PM




Whit, there may be a HIGHER power involved indeed - - increased red blood cells from practicing/playing at high altitude. Maybe it takes a few years for that phenom to kick in......

Rocky Mountain hiiiiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhhh....in Colorado! Rocky Mountain hiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHHHHH....in Colorado!

Just channeling some John Denver there - - our new state song. Friends around the campfire, everybody's high...high.....HIGH.

This is the best state EVER.
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Friday October 19, 2007 @ 6:03 PM




The whole subject of whether or not "God" intervenes in the affairs of the world fascinates me. Not that I wonder, I think my position is rather clear (me being an atheist and all) but that people actually will believe it. And influencing a sporting event no less.

Sometimes it sounds like the opinion is being expressed that an individual is happy that "the Lord" allowed him to win, which I take to mean that the individual believes that he won on his own merits and he's "thankful" that "God" didn't interfere.

Which actually seems like a more sensible position than "God" wanted me to win so I won. At least in this scenario talent and effort are still valued. And like they say, we can't prove that "God" didn't not intervene. Yikes.
 
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by notacynic (PM , CC ) on Saturday October 20, 2007 @ 4:21 AM




That is just silly. Of course God isn't a Rockies fan. Everyone knows Steinbrenner has him signed to a multi-year deal (he makes slightly less than A-Rod).

Now if the Nuggets play .500 ball, or Tancredo wins the '08 presidential election, or Colorado beats OU (heh-heh), that would be a sign of some Colorado fanship from the big buffalo in the sky. The Rockies winning the National League pennant is just the result of the fact that some team has to win and, well, its the National League.

As far as all that suffering stuff goes, I hope your not suggesting that God should be helping non-Americans or, even worse, liberals and minorities. I mean, Bush is a White American Republican (gotta love the acronym) and that man becoming President of the United States of America makes the resurrection look like a Chris Angel stunt. You just have to be born to a rich white American family and then God is all like "Sup, homey. We's tight yo."
 
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by The Vessel (PM , CC ) on Sunday October 21, 2007 @ 10:13 AM




V,

This is an age old debate -

very well written

BTW, I don't think God cares who wins the World Series!

That said - as a resident of a NLW city - I am cheering for the Rockies

ron
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Sunday October 21, 2007 @ 10:45 AM




Oh hell, why not let someone give him credit for winning one little baseball game, afterall if you look around the stream you find lots of people that blame him for ever war that was fought, and all their woe's....and thats just as laughable!
 
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by arrow (PM , CC ) on Sunday October 21, 2007 @ 11:17 PM




NotACynic, that's an even more interesting viewpoint - - so, some of these folks are afraid that God might try to get in the way of them doing their best? Then God might be a little like the Scandinavian trickster god, Loki....and who could blame him, hanging around with all of eternity before him? He must want to have a little fun now and then, play eenie meenie miney mo with plane crash survivors and so forth. Must be one of his mysterious ways that we hear so much about.

Some players honor their God with their performances - - "This one's for you, God!", and they'd follow it with a butt slap if they could reach his holiness and wouldn't get smited as a result. I can see that - - if I make a good throw from third to first, I might honor my flesh-n-blood father, who taught be how to catch a hot grounder in my glove instead of with my chin.

You know they say that thunder is God bowling - - so maybe he IS a sports nut!
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Monday October 22, 2007 @ 6:13 PM




Vessel, that's not EVEN funny! If Tancredo wins in 2008, it's a sure sign of the apocalypse......

God is insulted by Steinbrenner's offer.

You make an excellent point - - there are so many non-white non-Americans playing baseball these days that God probably wouldn't touch the game with a ten-foot staff. Maybe he's moved on to hockey, or golf (nope, there's Tiger, isn't there), or curling. Yup, curling is the sport of Bush's God's choice.

Or maybe he's putting odds on serial killers, who are almost always white Christian men........hmmmmmmmm, that idea has legs!

The Nuggets have a .500 season - - you're off your meds!
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Monday October 22, 2007 @ 6:19 PM




AZRon, that's what matters - - that YOU'RE on the Rockies' side! It's been fun watching the brouhaha around here, but I have to admit that I'm a collegiate league fan - - nothing like old fashioned amateur summer ball where you pay $5 to sit on the bleachers and fry like a catfish.  
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Monday October 22, 2007 @ 6:21 PM




Hi, Arrow ~

Poor God. He just can't win, even when he wins. Being a supreme deity, with all the power in the universe, is a tough gig.

Thanks for commenting!
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Monday October 22, 2007 @ 6:23 PM




I guess God can't love upon BOTH your baseball and football teams at the same time - there are only so many beer drinking days allowed in God's scheduled so he must choose wisely.....Broncos win 3 superbowls...Rockies nada. So yeah...this is all making sense; I think God loves the Rockies  
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by chandabear (PM , CC ) on Monday October 22, 2007 @ 6:55 PM




I think it is written that the Rockies Winning the series is the sign of the coming of the Zappachrist!  
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by Zappa Fan (PM , CC ) on Monday October 22, 2007 @ 7:15 PM




If God has time for such nonsense, I'm going with the devil.  
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by The Peever (PM , CC ) on Monday October 22, 2007 @ 7:35 PM




Chanda, you are so right - - Colorado has been very blessed by the Almighty, both in football and hockey. Of course, when the Avs won the Stanley Cup, I was pretty convinced that Ray Bourque was god....

Once you think this issue through, it DOES make a great deal of sense - - any state that houses a Focus on the Family megaplex, plus a stations-of-the-cross walk up to a humongoid statue of Jesus, along with our very own Rocky Mountain monastery, is probably in good stead with the man upstairs. All this interest in sports convinces me that God must indeed be a man - - you don't see him taking time out to ensure that Title IX makes a big huge diff, do you? And the WNBA? C'mon!
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @ 12:35 PM




O Great ZappaChrist.....

And it shall come to pass, in the days of falling leaves and illegal wiretaps and interference in civil wars in other nations, that a team clad in God-approved purple shall smite all other meddlers in that sport that is played with a penis-metaphor club and a testicle-metaphor ball. And when that purple-robed team shall win the series of the world (or the world as defined by the United States, which is the United States), then the ZappaChrist shall walk upon the earth in his six-inch pink platform pumps with matching maribou trim and shall create an army of queens, drag and otherwise. And chaos shall reign.
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @ 12:40 PM




Peever, it's comforting to think that God would take time for Rockies' games but would completely ignore Bush and Cheney and their shenanigans, isn't it?

Just comes down to us being scared little animals who try to create eternity for ourselves and even our ego-extensions......
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Tuesday October 23, 2007 @ 12:42 PM




Valkyrie,
I am afraid God isn't a Rockies Fan, although it seems like devine intervention, he is too busy rooting for the Redskins! Oh yeah!

 
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by Whispered Promise (PM , CC ) on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @ 12:21 AM




"so, some of these folks are afraid that God might try to get in the way of them doing their best?"

Not so much that. I get the impression that they feel like they can do their best but then "God" decides if that's good enough, or maybe they worry that he will knock them down to keep them humble or something. So it would be for their own good like.

I like the Loki reference, it reminds me of a Heinlein novel, "Job, A Comedy of Justice", in which "God" kept changing realities on this poor dude and he hooked up with this Norwegian chick in one of them and he tried to explain to her what he perceived as happening and she brought up Loki. I only knew of him as some sort of nemesis to Thor and such from my comic book-reading days. Interesting.
 
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by notacynic (PM , CC ) on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @ 1:53 AM




Now, Whispered, why would God be on the side of a team with such an offensive name? Trust me, God's laughing along with that one.....

Have you SEEN the Rocky Mountains? If there's a God and if he likes baseball and if he concerns himself with professional sports, then he's fer sher a Rockies fan. Two words - - Coors Field. One more word - - microbrews.
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @ 6:17 PM




NotACynic, that makes more sense - - of course, trying to impose logic on this is a lost cause, kind of like the Cleveland Indians.

I'm going to have to read the book you mentioned - - can't say I've ever read a Heinlein novel before, but the premise of that one sounds really entertaining! Thanks, pal - - I'm always on the lookout for a good book......
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @ 6:20 PM




"Job" is a good read but if you seriously have not read his "Stranger In a Strange Land" you need to do so now. I mean right now. Hurry, I'll wait. I have spent the following twenty-five years trying to find anything else by him that comes close. Still not.  
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by notacynic (PM , CC ) on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @ 9:04 PM




I see Bosox won last night - must have been the DEVIL that made that happen!!!!  
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Thursday October 25, 2007 @ 9:04 AM




OK, NotACynic - - I'm leaving work RIGHT NOW, at 11:42 a.m., to get my library copy of "Stranger in a Strange Land". Let it fall on your head if my organization falls to pieces in my absence!!!!

Seriously, though, I'll go check it out this afternoon.....THANKS!
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Thursday October 25, 2007 @ 1:43 PM




AZRon, God has abandoned the Rockies. What a fickle, fair weather fan he is! The entire state of Colorado has probably renounced its collective belief in the almighty after that trouncing....

Or maybe it's a test of faith - - you always hear about God doing that, telling someone to kill his own kid just to see if the guy would actually commit a violation of God's own ten commandants just because God asked him to.
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Thursday October 25, 2007 @ 1:46 PM




Maybe "God" wants them to overcome a little adversity on their way to winning in seven.  
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by notacynic (PM , CC ) on Thursday October 25, 2007 @ 3:27 PM




Yeah, NAC, he might've been annoyed that they had an eight day break; if it had been seven days, it would've fit so much better - - "And on the seventh day, the Rockies slew the Red Sox and it was good."  
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Thursday October 25, 2007 @ 3:58 PM




Sure hope you like the book, I guess it's sort of on me if you don't. But you will. I think.  
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by notacynic (PM , CC ) on Thursday October 25, 2007 @ 10:12 PM




Oh, it's on you, all right! If I waste some of the best hours of my life on a crappy novel, I'm comin' for ya!  
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Friday October 26, 2007 @ 1:01 PM







Visit Ivory's Christian Community



Visit Ivory's Christian Community


 
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by Ivory (PM , CC ) on Sunday October 28, 2007 @ 12:01 PM




Valkyrie -- The Colorado Rockies are obviously godless. Someone on the team must be gay. I heard the Rocky evangelicals were out-maneuvered by the Sox catholics with a flurry of rosary beads and hail mary prayers. Well it turns out, god does listen. The lord decided to give one to the Catholics. Ya know, to ease the scorn of being an institution of kidbuggery.

AND THE LORD SAID, "THERE'S ALWAYS NEXT YEAR"

The same people who bought Dan's implied corellation between a winning streak and jesus, will accept the lame rational he uses to explain the team suddenly and decisively being shunned by the lord. ........Mysterious ways.....
Salud.
 
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by theblaast (PM , CC ) on Monday October 29, 2007 @ 10:06 AM




Apparently, God isn't a Rockies Fan!!!!

Not that I think God cares who won the world series.

Saw the interview with Clint Hurley after the game - what a classy man - all Rockies fans should be proud of him and his team - they just ran into the best team of the decade!

cheers.

ron
 
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by AZRON (PM , CC ) on Monday October 29, 2007 @ 10:09 AM




Maybe God was busy and forgot to look in on the Rockies; it's a big Universe after all. You know if he wanted to he could work a miracle and make it so the Rockies actually won the World Series.

Anyway, I started reading "Stranger In a Strange Land", the original uncut version, last night again (just because I can). Some parts even seemed new; maybe it's early stage Alzheimer's.
 
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by notacynic (PM , CC ) on Monday October 29, 2007 @ 3:25 PM




Hi, Ivory, and thanks for the kind invitation - - I'm an atheist, but I might drop by to check out the discussions over your way.

 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Monday October 29, 2007 @ 7:05 PM




TheBlaast, you're ever so right - - now Dan Caplis will claim that the Rockies needed to be humbled, and therefor God begat the Bosox and unleashed them upon the Rockies. Cracks me UP!

Maybe God is a vegetarian, and he just was messing with the Monfort brothers by raising the Rox so high and then knocking 'em down like Lincoln Logs. No, that can't be it - - to quote Margaret Atwood, all gods are carnivorous.
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Monday October 29, 2007 @ 7:09 PM




AZRon, it's hard to be resentful of losing to a team with that much talent - - the Rox overall fought hard, but the Bosox must've had an even GREATER god on their side, like Zeus or Odin.

 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Monday October 29, 2007 @ 7:11 PM




NotACynic, maybe it's GOD who has Alzeheimer's - - why else would he have forsaken us???? Just playin'.

My last (hopefully) comment on the World Series is: "WOO HOO, it's over! Let's get on to college basketball and hockey, dammitalltohell! Yippeekiyay!"

A quick anecdote about abridged books - - as a girl, I grew up reading and rereading the copy of "Little Women" that my mom and dad had in the family library. It wasn't until I was an adult that I bought my own copy, and it seemed, well, bigger - - turns out I'd read and reread a very much abridged version as a kid. What a gift it seemed to find out that there was MORE.....

I'm waiting for my copy of "Stranger in a Strange Land" and I'm hoping for much strangeness.
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Monday October 29, 2007 @ 7:16 PM




Don't want to give too much away but the strange land is that which we call home.  
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by notacynic (PM , CC ) on Monday October 29, 2007 @ 10:37 PM




Hence the old proverb, "Be it ever so strange, there's no place like home."  
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Tuesday October 30, 2007 @ 1:58 PM




How about "Home is where the strange is"? Home on the strange? There's no strange like home?  
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by notacynic (PM , CC ) on Tuesday October 30, 2007 @ 3:38 PM




Or "Home is the place where, no matter how strange you are, they have to take you in."

Home on the strange......that's GOOD.
 
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Tuesday October 30, 2007 @ 5:41 PM


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   
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